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figheadair January Tartan of the Month -... 1st January 11, 02:27 AM
Standard Are part of the dark blue... 1st January 11, 06:50 AM
YoungMan Just at first glance I would... 1st January 11, 09:07 AM
figheadair :D Those in the UK will... 1st January 11, 03:14 PM
figheadair Nope. 1st January 11, 03:08 PM
ForresterModern The whole width of the tartan... 1st January 11, 03:30 PM
figheadair Half right. But which half? :) 2nd January 11, 12:16 AM
figheadair One of the things about... 2nd January 11, 12:23 AM
xman Actually I had already... 2nd January 11, 12:51 AM
figheadair 33.5" to be precise. ... 2nd January 11, 05:07 AM
ForresterModern Just taking a stab, is it... 2nd January 11, 08:06 AM
figheadair Getting colder :) 2nd January 11, 11:41 AM
Orvis I'll posit a guess and say... 3rd January 11, 03:01 PM
Morris at Heathfield Is there a join? If so, is it... 3rd January 11, 10:55 PM
figheadair A little research trick. It's... 3rd January 11, 11:27 PM
figheadair A good guess and along the... 3rd January 11, 11:32 PM
Orvis Hmm - maybe my eyes were... 4th January 11, 02:51 PM
figheadair Come on guys, and girls. No... 7th January 11, 06:35 AM
KenB I would love to take a stab... 7th January 11, 07:59 AM
figheadair Bang on. It belongs to the... 7th January 11, 09:01 AM
KenB WOW! My guess was simply a... 7th January 11, 05:09 PM
figheadair I have the famaily history of... 8th January 11, 12:01 AM
artificer Peter, I'm always... 8th January 11, 05:32 AM
figheadair You and me both although I'm... 8th January 11, 08:25 AM
KenB Artificer makes a good point.... 8th January 11, 05:43 AM
figheadair That's an interesting... 8th January 11, 08:17 AM
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    January Tartan of the Month - What do you see?

    Bliadhna Mhath Ur one and all.

    Here's something to get the brain going. A piece from PEI. What do you see?





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    Are part of the dark blue wefts replaced by light blue, and light blue replaced by white??
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    Just at first glance I would say it's higher a gigantic sett, or the white line in the middle is being used to mirror the sett. The thick dark blue/black stripes are on opposite sides of their respective light blue stripes.

    The answer to that riddle is probably the same for why there's only one thick dark stripe near the end of the piece horizontally. The thin stripes repeat like a sett, but the thick striped seems to once again be forming a border of sorts.

    Finally, I dont know if it's just my eyes, the shading difference or what, but several of the thin blue stripes to the right of center seem to smaller thread count than their partners to the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungMan View Post
    Just at first glance I would say it's higher a gigantic sett, or the white line in the middle is being used to mirror the sett. The thick dark blue/black stripes are on opposite sides of their respective light blue stripes.

    The answer to that riddle is probably the same for why there's only one thick dark stripe near the end of the piece horizontally. The thin stripes repeat like a sett, but the thick striped seems to once again be forming a border of sorts.

    Finally, I dont know if it's just my eyes, the shading difference or what, but several of the thin blue stripes to the right of center seem to smaller thread count than their partners to the left.
    Those in the UK will probably understand if I said Vicky Pollard (UK TV character whose catch phrase is Yer but, no but!)

    Keep going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Standard View Post
    Are part of the dark blue wefts replaced by light blue, and light blue replaced by white??
    Nope.

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    The whole width of the tartan appears to be the sett or maybe not even the whole sett, but only part of it. The sett appears absolutely huge. I do not see the broadest dark blue strip across near the end of the run ever repeated in the rest of the fabric, except at the other end, although it is possibly hidden by the tape measure or in the folded portion of the fabric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForresterModern View Post
    The whole width of the tartan appears to be the sett or maybe not even the whole sett, but only part of it. The sett appears absolutely huge. I do not see the broadest dark blue strip across near the end of the run ever repeated in the rest of the fabric, except at the other end, although it is possibly hidden by the tape measure or in the folded portion of the fabric.
    Half right. But which half?

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    One of the things about tartan research is that one often has to work from imperfect information, such as incomplete pieces, poor quality images etc.

    The aim of these monthly threads is to get those interested in old pieces/any history to see and not just look. So for example these images are not detailed enough to read the tape with ease but if one applies what one knows about tape measures then it's possible to work out the width.

    Similarly, because of the length of the material and the setting one's eye is naturally drawn to the warp but the weft will often add detail, confirm or negate a theory.

    I look forward to further comments.

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    Actually I had already counted and found that it is about a yard wide, a curious width by today's standard. That would make it 3-4 yards long which is really too long to be a stole, which was my first thought, but maybe a sash of some kind or even table cloth.

    The warp doesn't match the weft well so it might not even be tartan properly.

    The colours are curious too which makes me think it has faded. Perhaps the green was darker, the pale blue too, and the dark blue we see might even have been black. The red is still pretty vibrant though so I don't know about that.

    Some worn areas might be moth chews so, wool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xman View Post
    Actually I had already counted and found that it is about a yard wide, a curious width by today's standard. That would make it 3-4 yards long which is really too long to be a stole, which was my first thought, but maybe a sash of some kind or even table cloth.
    33.5" to be precise.

    The warp doesn't match the weft well so it might not even be tartan properly.
    Oh but it does but there are some features that complicate things.

    The colours are curious too which makes me think it has faded. Perhaps the green was darker, the pale blue too, and the dark blue we see might even have been black. The red is still pretty vibrant though so I don't know about that.
    Yes, faded in places, only one blue/green, black not dark blue.

    Some worn areas might be moth chews so, wool?
    Probably.

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