Some more do's and don'ts on the board

[pdcorlis]

I'm sure you mean that clause as hyperbole; the previous two clauses in that sentence describe me precisely, before I found XMarks, but even then I could easily distinguish an armored tracked mobile gun from a toothbrush.

Best wishes.
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Sorry for the confusion - its an XMarks thing...

As described on the X-Marks FAQ:

A 'TANK' is defined as an eight-yard, wool, hand-sewn, traditional kilt. ie., "It's built like a tank." (coined by Jimmy Carbomb c.2005)

Cheers!

[Coinneach MacAoidh]

[1. Never bring up 19th Century Scottish history, especially in relation to royalty. It's a minefield of opinion and can quickly divide the members into those who choose to ignore the political background, itself off limits, and those for whom it is central to their kilt-wearing. Just DON'T GO THERE!

I find it odd that on a site that celebrates the culture of a people you would attempt to exclude pivotal events that forged that culture!

[McClef]

Yes, I found that difficult, certainly where the history of the kilt is concerned.

[Zardoz]

I have looked at this thread and also looked at Paul's thread in which he wanted advice on what to wear to a casual ceilidh in Scotland tonight. I was quite dismayed to see several members from abroad giving him advice on what to wear. The advice they gave seems to be what a kilt-wearer in their own country would wear. The advice was plainly wrong. It took Jock Scot to point out that no jacket was required, for example.

There is a tendency on this site, I think, for people who really do not know what they are doing , to give advice when clearly such advice is wrong. And this is especially true when the advice comes from abroad to a Scot about kilt wearing !

Wow, take that provincials! Geography! Something else to consider when asking for or offering fashion advice.

[ForresterModern]

I am a bit late to the dance here, as I have been offline on vacation for nine days or so, and have read this whole thread straight through from the start, all nine pages of posts.

From my point of view the OP was expressing his suggestions for behavior that would be least likely to set off a frakas or get stomped by the mods. No problems there.

Personally I think Jamie, Jock, and Steve spoke most eloquently on differing points of view about how and whether to provide responses to photos asking for opinions or just showing off their kilt stuff.

As a person with a fair amount of managerial training, combined with a job which also requires me to frequently inform my clients of significantly "bad" news, my years of limited experience and training led me to the technique of positives first and negatives last-----some would call it "good news, bad news". Most folks do well with hearing wha is right and what does work, and by doing so you have set the table for what they know is coming next--the bad news. Again, if said in a courteous and forward thinking constructive way criticism can be absorbed a lot easier. That way nobody is blowing smoke anywhere, we can each get our opinions put out there, hopefully in a way which will be heard, understood, and given due consideration.

But above all, courtesy, honesty, kindness, respect, and forethought. Please.

[Coinneach MacAoidh]

There seem to me to be too many rules and moderations here to have a decent discussion on anything. If everything said in these forum is censored to insure that no one can possibly be offended it will degenerate rapidly to a group of dandies admiring each others clothes. The history of the Celtic race is what made us. By denying or diminishing ANY part of it you loose the whole. Do we go back to saying the earth is flat? the earth is the center of the universe and the sun rotates around it? Did the Holocaust happen?
If you have a different take on a historical event then we can discuss it! Politeness is a wonderful thing, but to try to work around the fact that our common past has been long and bloody is to do us all an injustice. Many of us own replicas of the basket hilt and the claymore, (reference Jaime's photos earlier in this thread) where do you suppose they came from? What is the kilt? Why is it worn? Was it ever outlawed? By whom?
If we take these things out of the conversation, we lose our purpose. Royalty? If your talking about royalty in Ireland that would be Brian Boru, in Scotland The Bruce, the Sassenach don't enter the equation but in the role of the oppressor.
If you want to deny historical fact, to my mind you end up like charactor in the Stan Rogers song "The Nancy"
"
The clothes men wear do give them airs, the fellows do compare.
A colonel's regimentals shine, and women call them fair.
I am Alexander MacIntosh, a nephew to the Laird
And I do distain men who are vain, the men with powdered hair."

It is my hope that this is a more substantial site than that.

I'm a 55 year old kilted Celt. I'm an old, fat bearded, opinionated, biker type. I don't feel the need for approval from another regarding the way I dress and don't wish to spend my time telling others, "Well done, nice kilt if that's not what I truly believe."
Please tell me if I've stumble onto the wrong site.

[Garry Oak]

If we take these things out of the conversation, we lose our purpose.

I disagree. I'm new here, too, but it's certainly not my first forum. As I read things, I don't get the impression that people want to deny historical fact. Rather, I see that they acknowledge that certain topics are virtually guaranteed to run a thread off the rails. In the interest of letting threads develop and grow, so that people can pass on useful information, there's an agreement simply not to discuss those topics in this forum.

As a fifty year old American, I'm aware of the kilt as the Scottish national dress. I'm aware that the proscription of wearing kilts by civilians in Scotland was repealed while we were busy having a Revolution against the Crown. They've been doing this modern kilt-wearing thing for a while, then.

My own purpose is to learn how to wear a kilt without looking as though I've used a shortbread tin as an instruction manual. When I found this forum, people had already agreed to stick to the topic before I arrived. That's useful to me.

[Coinneach MacAoidh]

Nice kilt!

[McMurdo]

Gentlemen
The Moderating Council has been discussing this thread for some time it is our decision to close the thread as it has basically devolved into name calling. If you want to see the real do's and dont's of the forum then read the forum rules. You know those they are the one's you agreed to when you joined.