Tartan Riders - Design Thread

[cavscout]

This thread is to present ideas for and discuss the design of the tartan riders cycling wear. Please feel welcome to present your ideas (preferably with images to help express the concept if possible).

The tartan to be incorporated is the Holyrood tartan

A bit of it's background:
"The Holyrood Tartan was created as an adaptation of the Royal Stewart. Many of the newer tartans took their inspiration from this popular sett, usually with some royal significance. Lochcarron of Scotland was similarly inspired to commemorate the Silver Jubilee in 1977. This tartan, with its hues of blue, sage, silver and white has remained popular and took on a new relevance when the first Scottish Parliament for 300 years was based at Holyrood." - The Scotland Shop

"Designed by Alistair Buchan of Lochcarron of Scotland to commemorate the Silver Jubilee of Queen Elizabeth II in 1977. Holyrood is the Scottish equivalent of Buckingham Palace, the Queen's official residence in Scotland. She is guarded by 'The Royal Company of Archers', a non military force provided by the chiefs of the clans." - The Scottish Register of Tartans

Templates for the Jerseys and bibs can be downloaded from the vendor web site here... http://champ-sys.com/custom/cycling/formsandtemplates

Have fun and I look forward to seeing what we can come up with.

[cavscout]

Here is my initial concept from another thread....




Instead of white, the non-tartan areas could be the blue of the Saltire and then the collar and sleeves would be edged in a row of St. Andrews crosses all the way around.

I like the idea of the tartan fading out into Saltire Blue or some other solid color. Either from the top down or the bottom up or top corner to lower opposite corner. This photo might give the idea of the type of fading / dissolving I'm envisioning. Imagine the orange squares are the tartan area and the tartan dissolves into the solid color area.


I'll play with some more templates to get a design of it fading from the bottom up.

[CDNSushi]

Cavscout,

Depending on the final design, I would also possibly be interested in a jersey. I will leave the creativity to you.

One thing I will mention, though is that since I am not actually Scottish, I probably wouldn't be in on a design that incorporated the Saltire or St. Andrew's crosses. I have absolutely nothing against those symbols, but they are foreign to me. I would no more wear a Saltire on my clothing than I would, say (for example) the Slovak coat of arms. A neat design to be sure, but meaningless to me.

But I am just one voice. Please do whatever you think will look best from your angle and not mine.

[cavscout]

Thanks for the perspective. Would it change the impression if the saltires were not actually individual flags but rather simply a blue band with a contiguous and adjoining series of St. Andrews crosses on it. Something like this....


or (it may not be visible on some monitors but there is a white border along all 4 edges of this one.)


or layer the lines

[NewGuise]

I likely just missed the relevant post (those XMarks access problems continue to plague me!), but ... was there a particular reason that we could not go for the XMarks tartan? I like the Holyrood a great deal, but the XMarks tartan is already a signifier for all of us here, and would look terrific on a jersey (which could mostly be just that bright blue)...

[CDNSushi]

Cavscout: That looks good. Something like that I could go for -- it's subtle -- subtle is nice. :-) (My fav. is the stacked line design -- I like the gray borders on the white, it gives it a bit of a 3D quality) :-)

[chasem]

I'm okay with the gray bordering the white, as long as it doesn't disrupt the white.

[Squeaky McMurdo]

I don't have the patience to sit and fade the tartan in increments, but the splash effect is kind of cool don't you think?



With or without the "Tartan Riders" and maybe less tartan on the bottom

--Chelsea McMurdo--

[ForresterModern]

Chelsea,

Me like. Same on the back.

And maybe a small Tartan Riders logo around the collar instead of a Saltire repeat. The Saltire could be superimposed on the bottom outside of the sleeve as a single flag if we want to include that in the design. I worry about using it on the collar since it is a different blue from the dominant blue of the Holyrood tartan and would stick out a bit too much being only on the collar, a very visible piece, but nowhere else.

Other design suggestions: club cut jerseys instead of race cut will fit more riders (for instance I would have to drop out if race cut were chosen since they do not make one big enough for me and my gut), jerseys should be full length hidden zipper if no extra cost, or at least 18 inch hidden zipper, the Tartan Riders logo could also be letters cut out of the same tartan, the shorts/bibs should be basic black with either side panels or an inverted U-panel of the tartan instead of solid tartan.

[KFCarter]

Chelsea,

Me like. Same on the back.

And maybe a small Tartan Riders logo around the collar instead of a Saltire repeat. The Saltire could be superimposed on the bottom outside of the sleeve as a single flag if we want to include that in the design. I worry about using it on the collar since it is a different blue from the dominant blue of the Holyrood tartan and would stick out a bit too much being only on the collar, a very visible piece, but nowhere else.

Seconding most of ForresterModern's comments with the exception of the Saltire placement. I think it might be lost on the outer edge of the sleeve as a single flag... If it's included as a single flag, a small one could go on the collar (front or back)... or, perhaps following cavscout's line of thought, if the sleeves were banded with a repeating design that suggests the Saltire without trying to represent it exactly, liberties could be taken with the color and the background blue could be the same as the dominant blue in the Holyrood tartan.

I also agree with ForMod about the fit issues... I'm certainly not as svelte as I once was!