Robert the Bruce

[Ancienne Alliance]

I found a certain Robert de Bruce, seigneur de Brix, born in Brittany 1105.

Is there any way he could be connected with “our” Robert the Bruce, perhaps an ancestor ?

Thank you.


J'ai trouvé un certain Robert de Bruce, seigneur de Brix, né en Bretagne, en 1105.

Serait-il possible d'établir un lien avec “notre” Robert the Bruce, peut-être un ancêtre ?

Merci



Best,

Robert

[Chas]

Hi Robert,

This person is an ancestor of 'our' Robert the Bruce and may be connected to Robert de Bruce, seigneur de Brix, born in Brittany 1105.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_...d_of_Annandale

Regards

Chas

[Ancienne Alliance]

Thank you very much, Chas.


best,

Robert

[Ancienne Alliance]

Here is another example of a Norman with Celtic ancestors.

Voici un autre exemple d'un Normand aux ancêtres celtes.

Yesterday I posted the Celtic origins of the Montgomery of Normandy.

Hier, j'ai présenté les origines celtiques des Montgomery de Normandie.

Today, here is the Celtic roots of Robert de Bruce, lord of Brix, ancestor of Robert the Bruce.

Aujourd'hui , voici les racines celtiques de Robert de Bruce, seigneur de Brix, lui-même ancêtre de Robert the Bruce d'Ecosse.

My demonstration :

Robert de Bruce, lord of Brix, seigneur de Brix (1105 - ), son of : fils de :

Adam de Bruce, lord of Brix, seigneur de Brix (1075 - 1143) son of : fils de :

Adalème de Bruce, lord of Brix, seigneur de Brix (1050 – 1094) son of : fils de :

Robert Ier de Bruce, lord of Brix, seigneur de Brix (1000 – 1067) son of : fils de :

Ragnvald Brusesson of Orcade and Bruce, d'Orcades et Bruce ( - 1006) son of : fils de :

Ragnvald Brusesson of Orcade and Bruce d'Orcades et Bruce ( - 1006) son of : fils de :

Bruci Wiffen Sigurdsson of Orcade and Bruce d'Orcades et de Bruce (987 - 1031) son of : fils de :

Anleta MacKenneth called dite Malkholmsdatter (986 - ) daughter of : fille de :

Malcolm II Mac Alpin, king of Scotland, roi d' Écosse (958 - 1034) son of : fils de :

Kenneth II Mac Alpin, king of Scotland, roi d' Écosse (932 – 995) son of : fils de :

Malcolm Ier Mac Alpin, king of Alba, roi d' Alba (897 - 954) son of : fils de :

Donald VI Mac Alpin, roi d' Alba (862 - 900) son of : fils de :

Constantin Ier, king of Alba, roi d' Alba (836 - 877) son of : fils de :

Kenneth Ier, king of Scotland, roi d' Écosse (810 - 859) son of : fils de :

Alpin, king of Kintyre, roi de Kintyre ( - 834)

Et la boucle est bouclée.


Best,

Robert

[Micric]

I think the De Bruce family owned property in Northern England, at Upsall If I remember correctly,(Near Nunthorpe in the North Riding of Yorkshire) before becoming more 'famous' further north!

[Graham A. Robieson]

Greetings,

Looking about this in books aswell as finding more information, Robert de Brus/Bruis/Bruce introduced the name Robert to Britain and through research is the earliest I have founded bearing the name in Britain.

Here is a link:

Clan Bruce - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apart from the link, after gaining land in Yorkshire, the name Robinson appears in records, and gaining lands in Scotland brought the name Robinson with many other versions e.g. Robison, Robson recorded aswell.

Another note: correct spelling of surnames wasn't important back then, so my advice is go by what the name sounds like rather than what is spelt, for example the name Robieson has different spellings but still sound the same, e.g. Robison, Robisone, Robeson, Robsone and any other variant, all names begining with 'Rob' are connected by Robert de Bruce introducing the name Robert to Britain 1000 years ago (1066).

In regards to my own name, Robieson isn't in records dating back to the same time as the other versions because it is a fairly recent name and originated as a nickname for Robertson from about 1700s-1900s (of which in the Highlands surnames weren't fixed and carried names like for example Donald has a son Duncan, so Duncan would be named Duncan MacDonald.), through researching my family history, my Great-Great Grand Father was born Robertson in 1846 but at the turn of the 20th century shortly after the 1901 cenus, became recorded as Robieson with the birth of my Grand Father who was also recorded as Robieson so my family name is 100 years old (in my case ), also with the history of Clan Robertson I was able to find out more about the name.

Here is a link:

Clan Donnachaidh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I hope this info sheds some more light on the subject etc.



Thank-you for your time,


Graham.