"Jacobite" garb

[Woodsheal]

I read this rhread from start to finish and I'm curious as to wether any Lowlanders fought in the uprisings, and if so, what did they wear since they probably would not have worn a kilt. Or would they?

There were plenty of lowland Jacobites, as well as English ones. About a quarter of the Jacobite troops during the '45 were lowlanders, the Edinburgh Regiment (John Roy Stuart's) being an example unit.

Lowlanders did not wear highland dress, but there was still a distinct 'Scottishness' about them. The knitted 'Scots bonnet' was as popular in the Lowlands, and lowlanders also utilized plaids when travelling or engaged in other outdoor pursuits (though not worn belted/kilted)....

[The Bear]

I was watching Rob Rob for the millionth time and im sure he's not wearing a great kilt! its looks like its in 2 maybe even 3 parts. With the kilt being worn at the bottom and some cloth tucked into the back and side then pined on to the shoulder. This is something im planning on doing in the future but should i just use a fly plaid for the top part?

[Peter Crowe]

Lowlanders did not wear highland dress, but there was still a distinct 'Scottishness' about them. The knitted 'Scots bonnet' was as popular in the Lowlands, and lowlanders also utilized plaids when travelling or engaged in other outdoor pursuits (though not worn belted/kilted)....

It is worth remembering this when looking at Scotland's History and Culture, and also that the Highland/Lowland cultural divide is often overstated. Many Highlanders no longer speak Gaelic, and Glasgow has more native Gaelic speakers than the Western Isles. On the other hand indigenous forms of Scots are spoken from the Northern Isles and Caithness to the Mull of Galloway.

[Woodsheal]

I was watching Rob Rob for the millionth time and im sure he's not wearing a great kilt! its looks like its in 2 maybe even 3 parts. With the kilt being worn at the bottom and some cloth tucked into the back and side then pined on to the shoulder. This is something im planning on doing in the future but should i just use a fly plaid for the top part?

When little kilts came into common usage, plaids were still worn - or 'carried' might be a more accurate term. For example:



I'm pretty sure such plaids were somewhat larger than today's 'fly plaids'....

[MacHenderson]

Speaking of Rob Roy, I found this picture of Liam Neeson as Robert after a quick google search.

I wondered how accurate his garb was in this photo? I know Hollywood has a nasty reputation for taking liberties when it comes to historical garb, but I was curious how far off they were in this movie. I always liked the look, and have been tentatively basing my own outfit around this one.

[Woodsheal]

Speaking of Rob Roy, I found this picture of Liam Neeson as Robert after a quick google search.

I wondered how accurate his garb was in this photo? I know Hollywood has a nasty reputation for taking liberties when it comes to historical garb, but I was curious how far off they were in this movie. I always liked the look, and have been tentatively basing my own outfit around this one.

The only problems I have with Rob's outfit in the movie are: the leather jacket (period descriptions are all wool), and the circular brooch (always described as women's wear in period documents)...

[MacHenderson]

The only problems I have with Rob's outfit in the movie are: the leather jacket (period descriptions are all wool), and the circular brooch (always described as women's wear in period documents)...

Got it. So as apposed to the leather jacket, it'd be more accurate to get something like you're wearing in the very first picture? The hodden grey doublet? I had been considering the leather highland jerkin featured on ravenswood leather, but if wool was period correct, I may not.
http://www.ravenswoodleather.net/sho...=257&parent=17
And if not the brooch seen here, what would be acceptable? I made this one in metal shop a few years back; sorta simplistic design, but what do you think?

[Dale Seago]

And if not the brooch seen here, what would be acceptable? I made this one in metal shop a few years back; sorta simplistic design, but what do you think?

The pennanular type like that is a historically correct style, but for around the 10th Century and earlier.

Straight "bodkin" type pins are what you want for that period. You can see some examples, including some pics of actual ones from that era, in this thread at SFI.

[Captain_Cogle]

Might consider avoiding Ravenswood Leather. My wife was a seamstress for the guy and he is the single most anti-kilt guy I have ever met. Scotsmen are transvestites in his opinion.

[MacHenderson]

The pennanular type like that is a historically correct style, but for around the 10th Century and earlier.

Straight "bodkin" type pins are what you want for that period. You can see some examples, including some pics of actual ones from that era, in this thread at SFI.

So during this time period, it wasn't common to have the plaid pulled up to the shoulder in the front? Just the back? I'm guessing this is correct, based on pictures posted in this thread, and others I've seen.

Might consider avoiding Ravenswood Leather. My wife was a seamstress for the guy and he is the single most anti-kilt guy I have ever met. Scotsmen are transvestites in his opinion.

Wow, seriously!? Makes me wonder how many of those highland jerkins he's ever sold. Or why he even bothers to offer one in the first place! Thanks for the tip, I'll most definitely not be doing business with him.