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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodsheal View Post
    The only problems I have with Rob's outfit in the movie are: the leather jacket (period descriptions are all wool), and the circular brooch (always described as women's wear in period documents)...
    Got it. So as apposed to the leather jacket, it'd be more accurate to get something like you're wearing in the very first picture? The hodden grey doublet? I had been considering the leather highland jerkin featured on ravenswood leather, but if wool was period correct, I may not.
    http://www.ravenswoodleather.net/sho...=257&parent=17
    And if not the brooch seen here, what would be acceptable? I made this one in metal shop a few years back; sorta simplistic design, but what do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacHenderson View Post
    And if not the brooch seen here, what would be acceptable? I made this one in metal shop a few years back; sorta simplistic design, but what do you think?
    The pennanular type like that is a historically correct style, but for around the 10th Century and earlier.

    Straight "bodkin" type pins are what you want for that period. You can see some examples, including some pics of actual ones from that era, in this thread at SFI.
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    Might consider avoiding Ravenswood Leather. My wife was a seamstress for the guy and he is the single most anti-kilt guy I have ever met. Scotsmen are transvestites in his opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dale Seago View Post
    The pennanular type like that is a historically correct style, but for around the 10th Century and earlier.

    Straight "bodkin" type pins are what you want for that period. You can see some examples, including some pics of actual ones from that era, in this thread at SFI.
    So during this time period, it wasn't common to have the plaid pulled up to the shoulder in the front? Just the back? I'm guessing this is correct, based on pictures posted in this thread, and others I've seen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Cogle View Post
    Might consider avoiding Ravenswood Leather. My wife was a seamstress for the guy and he is the single most anti-kilt guy I have ever met. Scotsmen are transvestites in his opinion.
    Wow, seriously!? Makes me wonder how many of those highland jerkins he's ever sold. Or why he even bothers to offer one in the first place! Thanks for the tip, I'll most definitely not be doing business with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacHenderson View Post
    So during this time period, it wasn't common to have the plaid pulled up to the shoulder in the front? Just the back? I'm guessing this is correct, based on pictures posted in this thread, and others I've seen.



    Wow, seriously!? Makes me wonder how many of those highland jerkins he's ever sold. Or why he even bothers to offer one in the first place! Thanks for the tip, I'll most definitely not be doing business with him.
    Yup. He even goes to Scottish Games regularly. He likes the money Kilt wearers spend, but as for them he has some seriously bigoted opinions.

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    I've been thinking about this for a bit now, how were bonnets commonly worn?

    I don't mean when or what formality, but I've seen pics where the bonnets are pulled to the right or pulled forward almost like a flatcap. Did they just form them as they pleased or was there some sort of uniformity?

    Also what makes a bonnet from that period different from the modern types? I like the look of Ryan Ross's bonnets, but are they historical in fashion?
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    One more quick question. Well, for now anyways.
    How appropriate would these moccasin boots be considered?


    Note that I've already gotten them, and personally think they look great with my belted plaid; very rugged. But I wanted someone else's opinion as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacHenderson View Post
    One more quick question. Well, for now anyways.
    How appropriate would these moccasin boots be considered?


    Note that I've already gotten them, and personally think they look great with my belted plaid; very rugged. But I wanted someone else's opinion as well.
    Honestly not even close. You would be much better off with the 1740s shoes here www.civilwarboots.com or a pair of Highland broges here www.foxblade.co.uk www.re-enactment-shoes.co.uk

    Another option for "OK" footwear are www.fugawee.com or www.robertlandhistoricshoes.com

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    I should probably add period images of Highlanders from 1700-1740's show the vast majority of them, both poor and wealthy to be in tie shoes rather than buckles.

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    Re: "Jacobite" garb

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Cogle View Post
    Honestly not even close. You would be much better off with the 1740s shoes here www.civilwarboots.com or a pair of Highland broges here www.foxblade.co.uk www.re-enactment-shoes.co.uk

    Another option for "OK" footwear are www.fugawee.com or www.robertlandhistoricshoes.com
    The Captain is correct. Some other sources:

    If you want soft cuaran or "moccasin" type footwear, these look the closest to what highlanders actually wore (though they are over-priced!):
    http://www.arrowmoc.com/pt.html

    I always thought Jarnagin's had some of the best shoes available (again, pricey!). Click on "footwear" on the left:
    http://www.jarnaginco.com/FIcatframe.html

    Probably the best deal on period shoes, is here:
    http://jas-townsend.com/product_info...roducts_id=244

    On any of the buckle-style shoes, the latchets can be cut back and laces used instead. I prefer to do this because buckles always loosen up over time....
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