A story of Kilted Attention or: Why I can't go commando!

[tundramanq]

The official inspector ladys apparently have a sensitive enough touch. And can feel the seam on the outer thigh were they are allowed to test. Even with my solid ( this is before tartan time) HW wool they and I can feel the leg band.

[Four]

Over 200 posts and not one from me! A record?

Well ok I am all for a bit of fun and there was a time in the dim and distant past when I was all for a lot of fun, even risque fun! But, and I say again, BUT there is a time and a place and what is required is discretion, and consideration, two old fashioned words these days sadly, but all these fun things do out of necessity, require both.

Various and legitimate points of view have been voiced and it is obvious to all, I think, that opinions differ markedly. Now given my liking of fun, even at my age, my slant on this is.

If two(more?!!) consenting adults want to "kilt check" they are quite at liberty to do so, providing they have the discretion to consider others around them and their sensibilities too. If one person does not consent, then trouble is almost assuredly waiting from one direction or another. If others might not be happy, then please have the discretion and consideration to find another time and place and a willing participant where no one will be offended and damn well get on with it!

You're reputation precedes you! You made an appearance, and didn't mention anything about my flip flops

[Jock Scot]

You're reputation precedes you! You made an appearance, and didn't mention anything about my flip flops

Had you asked for my opinion on them and the thread was about foot-wear , then I would no doubt have obliged you with a suitable answer.

[tundramanq]

Great idea Forrester - there are longer and more detailed rules on line also. I shorted them and left out some details for brevity here. Best thing is to find and copy the non copyrighted rules you find best and forward them to organizations hosting the events you go to. Or print and post them your self. There are so many of these events that haven't thought of formalizing this one and without - I generally pass on the event.

BTW - OT - jock scot and four, thanks for reminding me of that, It cracked me up then and again now LOL.

[Thorina]

*** to the comments of Matt, Dave, Scott, and Ryan since Alan's rant several pages back.

To Alan, I still feel many similar aspects of a brotherhood with you friend as I too have spent periods of raucous friendship and liberal acts with those friends in my life, and know the great satisfaction of friendships that go beyond a certain propriety level, but those have never extended to the inappropriate, or if they did they were corrected as best as possible.

To Thorina, and any others of the NorCal rabble who might be attending the April brunch in SF on that Sunday afternoon, I will hereby politely and respectfully request that if you choose to attend, which I hope all do, that kilt checks not be a part of that event as I myself and my wife and four year old son will not be comfortable, nay, will likely leave prematurely if that activity occurs during that gathering, friends or no. I thank you in advance for your considerations.

Jeff

I am a mother of 6, ages 9 to nearly 29.
My special needs son turns 18 today.
I know how to behave. (I also know how *not* to behave) I didn't gather from the invite that it was going to be a rock concert type environment. Children in attendence brings it to church manners or nearly church manners level. It sounded like a family oriented deal, not a rowdy drinking contest type deal.
It's at 2 in the afternoon at a park (?).....I'd have to start pretty early to be socially unacceptable around children by 2.

I do ask for a purposeful kilt check, if I get the better half to give a kilt a try. He won't show up kilted, but would warm up to it in a group of his kilted peers. I'll turn him and all of his stuff over to a fella or group of fellas to give him a hand getting dressed. I suppose you *could* pat his bum in admiration while doing so.....but you'll likely end up with a fat lip and I'll never be allowed to attend another kilted function in the Bay Area again.

[Zardoz]

I'm sorry, but "kilt checks" are ridiculous. Organized kilt checks with "rules" even more so....

Well, the rule thing sort of relates to elements of our discussion; There are some "Wench's Guilds" in the faire community, and one of their things is to walk around faire and 'wench' people, this usually consists of kissing them on the cheek and leaving a lipstick mark. They also do the 'organized' kilt checks as well.

Most of the 'rules' we've mentioned about checks at renfaire came about because somebody got upset at some point, and griped to faire management that some woman tried to touch their no-no place. There are actually some faires that have a "zero tolerance" policy towards wenchings and kilt checks, I think the Maryland Renaissance Festival is like that, no kilt checks. I've also heard there are some where they issue a ribbon for wenching instead of the kiss on the cheek thing, so I assume somebody somewhere complaned about getting a peck on the cheek as well

[Thorina]

I suggest you actively forward these "rules" to all renfaires, Scottish highland games, other public Celtic events, Burns suppers, all public taverns which might hosted kilties for kilt nights or even the random visit by a kilted individual, and any other establishment where risk of uninvited or invited kilt checks might be expected to occur, politely requesting that they be displayed prominently in bold letters at each and every entrance thereto, as well as openly behind the bars and at beer tents where alcohol would most likely be consumed, as well as published on any such event's web pages and in any event programs that would be handed out. I suppose the type would be too small to read to try to incorporate it into a handstamp or wristband used to document paid admittance to such places or events, but maybe a reminder phrase of "Please abide by published and posted Kilt Check Rules" might be short enough to be legible for such purpose. I welcome other suggestions.

Once people are drinking enough....that's just a dare to them.

[GoodGirlGonePlaid]

(snip)...that some woman tried to touch their no-no place.

Quote of the day!

[Woodsheal]

Here's an easy rule: keep your hands off perfect strangers!

(RenFaire folks should realize that, historically, uninvited touching was much LESS tolerated in that period than nowadays. Laying hands on a stranger was an occasion for drawn swords and split skulls!)

[Thorina]

Here's an easy rule: keep your hands off perfect strangers!

What's the rule with imperfect strangers?