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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I really don't understand! You are wearing a Scottish item of clothing in an environment several thousand miles away from its historic home, where probably most don't understand what a kilt is------its some sort of tartan? skirt?-------------and you are worried about the colour of the jacket?


    Not worried about the colour of the jacket, Jock. I was musing over the idea of buying a jacket for some reason other than it being the colour that you might prefer in the longer term as it seems that I've simply fallen into preferring the grey (its a more recent purchase, perhaps that's it). However, I shall take your point and let that lovat be seen more often!! It is, after all, quite a nice jacket. As for people knowing what a kilt is; those who know me are never surprised to see me in a kilt, and those who don't know me appear to appreciate that its being worn.

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    and further

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Bill View Post
    Jock, Canadians know what a kilt is. 99.9% of Canadians. Period. 17 Highland regiments in Canada. Pipes at every major government function and most minor ones. Pipes at probably 33% of our funerals and a lot of our weddings.

    Are Canadians in total sync with Scottish opinions of how to wear a kilt? No. But they sure as anything know what it is and what it means. To suggest otherwise risks serious offense as an accusation of ignorance.
    A further thought is, being as a Kilt was/is traditionally a Highland garment and not lowland apparel, there are likely just as many or maybe even more kilts worn, formally as well as informally in Canada as in Scotland .... just my opinion though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Searl View Post
    A further thought is, being as a Kilt was/is traditionally a Highland garment and not lowland apparel, there are likely just as many or maybe even more kilts worn, formally as well as informally in Canada as in Scotland .... just my opinion though
    I have no idea Terry, but you might be right on the numbers. Out of interest, nothing more, what is the population of Canada?
    " Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the adherence of idle minds and minor tyrants". Field Marshal Lord Slim.

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    as of last census

    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I have no idea Terry, but you might be right on the numbers. Out of interest, nothing more, what is the population of Canada?
    according to what i looked up on Google it is about 37 million but in a country with a land mass the size of Canada, really not very many at all, and most are immigrants bringing with them a great diversity of cultures, clothing, foods, and religions........ from what I read there are more people living in Canada with Scottish ancestry than the total present population of Scotland ......for the most part we are all getting along with each other
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    I've been told there are more people of Scottish descent in the US than there are in Scotland. Not sure if that's true or not, but I could see that being the case. I definitely know a whole lot of folks with Scottish bloodlines, and it seems a whole lot of Scots fled to the colonies after the Jacobite risings. Kilts aren't a common sight here though. Highland games, weddings, and pipers. That's about it, although you'll occasionally see one out in the wild (usually the utility type variety).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jock Scot View Post
    I have no idea Terry, but you might be right on the numbers. Out of interest, nothing more, what is the population of Canada?
    Jock.... at one of the more recent census, about 15% of Canadians self identified as having Scottish ancestry. Btw that means there are more Scottish descendants in Canada than there are Scottish citizens. I can only suspect that due to the Highland clearances the descendants of Highlanders in Canada would be even a much greater %.
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    ^ yep I was just looking at that. Seems the percentage of Americans reporting Scottish and Scots-Irish ancestry has gone down in recent years, but it's commonly thought that the decrease is mostly due to people not knowing about their ancestry. We're a bunch of mutts over here. Including myself, being Scottish, Scots-Irish, and English on my mother's side, and irish, Scots-Irish, English, German, and native American on my dad's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catch22Kid View Post
    ^ -------- We're a bunch of mutts over here. Including myself, being Scottish, Scots-Irish, and English on my mother's side, and irish, Scots-Irish, English, German, and native American on my dad's.
    I wouldn't worry about it if I were you, the present day Scots have just as much mixed blood in their veins although the mixing goes back rather longer, I think. We are also still adding to the mix today with Chinese, Poles, Pakistanis, West Indians to name but a few and who are adding to our cultural landscape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam View Post
    Jock.... at one of the more recent census, about 15% of Canadians self identified as having Scottish ancestry. Btw that means there are more Scottish descendants in Canada than there are Scottish citizens. I can only suspect that due to the Highland clearances the descendants of Highlanders in Canada would be even a much greater %.
    Slainte my friend.
    From what I've read the total number estimated to have been cleared over the century or so of the clearances, was a relatively small number of 150,000 people total (a lot from the districts they came from). They of course all didn't go to Canada, but the USA, Australia, New Zealand, England and of course the cities of Scotland took some.
    This would be a comparatively small percentage of the immigrants of Canada
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Q View Post
    This would be a comparatively small percentage of the immigrants of Canada
    Now, yes. Then, rather a noticeable %. Same in the US. Census Bureau clock says currently rather more than 325 million folk here.
    As one fifth of the population has stated they are of Scottish descent, a fairly considerable number. I have not seen (that I recall)
    a number for Scots who came here, but clearly they were quite productive. In all ways. Few came because they didn't love Scotland.
    Somewhere between many and most were under much coercive pressure, many realized it was leave or starve. Some did both. Some
    came because no matter the hardship, they could own the land on which they stood, and could not be forced off. Those on top, realizing
    the error of their ways, have now invented ways to remedy that error.

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