Ghillies w/ Ghillie Flaps?

**BoldHighlander** · 18th February 08, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Jock Scot

Well by the looks of them I would just call those Brogues,expensive ones I grant you,With a leather flap that is, as you say detachable.We wear the flaps when out on the moor in August to stop heather seeds etc. getting into the shoe and making life uncomfortable.That is all.I have several pairs of flaps lurking around the house.We used to get the local cobler to make them for us.I have no idea where to get new ones,but HOGGS of FIFE might be worth a try.

Thanks for the information.
One further question: would these be worn on "regular" brogues?
The reason I ask is I have never seen laces worn with them (like the ghillies that lace up ones ankle).

Thanks again.

**BoldHighlander** · 18th February 08, 04:16 AM

Ah-ha! Found the shoes (brogues) style your talking about: http://www.brogueshoes.co.uk/Brogues_Wide_Fitting.html

Now all I need is the flap

Thanks again!

**Jock Scot** · 18th February 08, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by BoldHighlander

Thanks for the information.
One further question: would these be worn on "regular" brogues?
The reason I ask is I have never seen laces worn with them (like the ghillies that lace up ones ankle).

Thanks again.

They are "regular" brogues----with an added optional flap----they lace up exactly as any normal shoe.They are nothing like ghillies.

**pipesndrumsnun** · 18th February 08, 05:37 AM

They look like regular "wing-tips"...what's the difference?

**Chef** · 18th February 08, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by pipesndrumsnun

They look like regular "wing-tips"...what's the difference?

Wingtips are brogues but not all brogues are wingtips. Brogues refer to shoes decorated with punched holes and serrated leather. Wingtips are brogues where the decoration on the toe resembles the shape of wings.

That said the term wingtips is frequently used to describe all brogues, particularly in the US.

Hope that helps.

**pipesndrumsnun** · 18th February 08, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Chef

Wingtips are brogues but not all brogues are wingtips. Brogues refer to shoes decorated with punched holes and serrated leather. Wingtips are brogues where the decoration on the toe resembles the shape of wings.

That said the term wingtips is frequently used to describe all brogues, particularly in the US.

Hope that helps.

YES! That does help...THANKS, Chef!