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23rd November 08, 02:43 PM
#1
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
They appear to be in an ordinary Argyll jacket with the lapel buttoned across the front. It is possible that the boys weren't wearing "collar and tie" and so the jacket was closed to disguise this fact.
If you look at most jackets today they have a blind button hole on the left lapel. This is a hold over from the days when jackets could be buttoned right up to the collar. Just as the boys in the photo are doing.
But the jackets are very cut-away, without (to my best viewing) either collar or buttons/buttonholes below the one that is buttoned at the neck. Altogether an interesting look but I wonder what kind of shirt you would wear under it today? Would you have some shirt collar showing -- seems uncomfortable to me to have the woolen jacket material up around your bare neck. Maybe that's why they look so unhappy
Proudly Duncan [maternal], MacDonald and MacDaniel [paternal].
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23rd November 08, 02:54 PM
#2
 Originally Posted by sydnie7
But the jackets are very cut-away, without (to my best viewing) either collar or buttons/buttonholes below the one that is buttoned at the neck. Altogether an interesting look but I wonder what kind of shirt you would wear under it today? Would you have some shirt collar showing -- seems uncomfortable to me to have the woolen jacket material up around your bare neck. Maybe that's why they look so unhappy 
Our military "patrol uniform" jackets attach at the neck, and the shirt worn under was collarless. It an earlier time all shirts had no collar till you decided to attach it as MoR has pointed out "It is possible that the boys weren't wearing "collar and tie" and so the jacket was closed to disguise this fact.".
Frank
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23rd November 08, 03:03 PM
#3
 Originally Posted by Highland Logan
Our military "patrol uniform" jackets attach at the neck, and the shirt worn under was collarless. It an earlier time all shirts had no collar till you decided to attach it as MoR has pointed out "It is possible that the boys weren't wearing "collar and tie" and so the jacket was closed to disguise this fact.".
Frank
I understand what MoR was saying, which that it was an ordinary Argyll jacket buttoned at the collar. I was pointing out that the Argyll jackets I see today have a collar, which seems to be absent from this picture, as well as a lower button/buttonhole, also apparently absent.
My opinion, FWIW, is that this jacket is deliberately styled to be buttoned as shown. But you know what they say about opinions.. .
Proudly Duncan [maternal], MacDonald and MacDaniel [paternal].
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23rd November 08, 03:46 PM
#4
 Originally Posted by sydnie7
I understand what MoR was saying, which that it was an ordinary Argyll jacket buttoned at the collar. I was pointing out that the Argyll jackets I see today have a collar, which seems to be absent from this picture, as well as a lower button/buttonhole, also apparently absent.
My opinion, FWIW, is that this jacket is deliberately styled to be buttoned as shown. But you know what they say about opinions.. . 
Sorry maybe I wasn't clear. I was refering to you shirt question. As to the jacket issue our patrols had a mandarin collar with a metal clip inside the collar. Those in the picture seemed to be buttoned but built on a turn of the century style millitary patteren.
Frank
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