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3rd September 09, 07:53 AM
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Thank you for the reminder, Jock. .....Lest we forget...
Victoria
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4th September 09, 01:07 AM
#2
Thanks Jock for that reminder.
Over here its usually December 7th (Pearl Harbor day) we most remember, for obvious reasons 
Actually I had forgotten Sept 3rd, 1939, and ironically yesterday my 10 yr old daughter said something about WWII starting with Pearl Harbor, and I told her "yes, for us, but you must remember that for Europe the shooting started in 1939."
I find as we drift further away from the actual events, as the participants die off in larger numbers, that (over here) I just don't hear about Pearl Harbor, Iwo Jima, D-Day, etc etc in the media (etc) like I did as a kid -- unless a new Hollywood film is coming out, but then its short lived.
Jock, do you find that to be the case on your side of the pond?
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4th September 09, 03:24 AM
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The American perception in 1939 was that it was primarily a European War (though the British Empire was also involved) so I expect that Pearl Harbour was the defining moment for US entry and still is in how history is viewed.
Sympathies were growing in the intervening period however including practical help such as Lend Lease.
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5th September 09, 03:28 AM
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 Originally Posted by McClef
Sympathies were growing in the intervening period however including practical help such as Lend Lease.
As well as the many US pilots who flew and died for the British.
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8th September 09, 07:42 AM
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 Originally Posted by davedove
As well as the many US pilots who flew and died for the British.
As well as a number of Americans serving with Canadian forces, the French Foreign Legion, etc.
T.
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8th September 09, 10:46 AM
#6
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
As well as a number of Americans serving with Canadian forces, the French Foreign Legion, etc.
T.
And more than a few Americans who served and fought in Asia long before Pearl Harbor.
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4th September 09, 03:55 AM
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 Originally Posted by BoldHighlander
Thanks Jock for that reminder.
Over here its usually December 7th (Pearl Harbor day) we most remember, for obvious reasons 
Actually I had forgotten Sept 3rd, 1939, and ironically yesterday my 10 yr old daughter said something about WWII starting with Pearl Harbor, and I told her "yes, for us, but you must remember that for Europe the shooting started in 1939."
I find as we drift further away from the actual events, as the participants die off in larger numbers, that (over here) I just don't hear about Pearl Harbor, Iwo Jima, D-Day, etc etc in the media (etc) like I did as a kid -- unless a new Hollywood film is coming out, but then its short lived.
Jock, do you find that to be the case on your side of the pond?
I suppose it is inevitable, as the older generation pass on, that the younger generation find it more difficult to relate to our recent past.My 14 year old step children cannot comprehend it, when I say to them, I have seen one of those,I remember seeing German prisoners, I remember seeing the Commandos training up in the hills or, on the lochs,I remember bombed out streets, I remember rationing, I met my father for the first time when I was 7 years old(apart from a couple of minutes that I don't remember),I only saw my mother at very short notice and for only a few hours when the hospital ship was in dock. We were dicussing it all last night.They just cannot relate to it. To them a war going on the other side of the world, as it is now, is the only thing that they can relate too.In a way, thank goodness---------but-----------.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 4th September 09 at 04:10 AM.
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4th September 09, 04:18 AM
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Jock, I missed it by a day due to illness, but thank you so much for this reminder. "Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it!"
My mother's father was in the Navy during this war and was in a small handful of men who survived a torpedo sinking of their ship. He was actually caught on something on the ship and was going down with it when there was another explosion and he was blown to the surface. I am fortunate to have several newspaper articles of the event with pictures of him recovering in the hospital and another picture of my grandmother and his mother reading the telegram from the Navy stating that he had survived. He lost 90% hearing in one ear and 15% in the other.
My mother's stepfather (her daddy) was a paratrooper and was briefly captured in France. When he escaped, he was able to free about 10 others with him. Some local people helped to hide them and then aided their escape. Although he died in 1992, I vividly remember hearing him talk about his experiences and never tired of hearing his stories.
My father's uncle was with General Chenault's Flying Tigers in the China/Burma/India campaign.
Thank you so much for this timely reminder and thus the renewed memory of my own family members who willingly risked their lives so that others could be free.
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