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14th October 10, 06:04 AM
#41
 Originally Posted by Drac
Nothing wrong with that.
As I said it is a personal feeling. It may change over time time and it may have been a bad example. How about I would wear medals to a black tie corporate event?
Jim
INMHO, that's apples & oranges. A Burns Supper is a celebration of Scotland's national bard, and not necessarily just another black tie event.
T.
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14th October 10, 06:09 AM
#42
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
INMHO, that's apples & oranges. A Burns Supper is a celebration of Scotland's national bard, and not necessarily just another black tie event.
T.
I know. I apologize, that's why I said it was a bad example.
Jim
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14th October 10, 06:10 AM
#43
 Originally Posted by Drac
I know. I apologize, that's why I said it was a bad example.
Jim
No need for apologies, Jim.
T.
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14th October 10, 06:22 AM
#44
 Originally Posted by cajunscot
We'll agree to disagree then. As I mentioned, Burns himself was a soldier, and the traditions of the Burns Supper have followed Scottish soldiers to many a battlefield, the most recent being Iraq. I don't see where a function honouring the national poet of Scotland, who volunteered to defend his country from possible invasion "demeans or cheapens" the meaning of medals. My friends who are ex-servicemen, btw, do not wear their medals at our Burns Suppers as a "hey, look at me!" thing -- they wear them to honour Pte. Burns of the Dumfries Volunteers, and the many Jocks who have stood beside us in a common cause of freedom. Burns even honoured our first C-in-C, General Washington, with a poem.
Not to mention that one of the first Burns Suppers was held by NCOs and other ranks of the Argyll Militia in 1801, giving the Burns Supper tradition a military origin.
T.
I may have to move up research on Burns a bit on the list. Like most Americans my only exposure to him is on New Years Eve. Since there is so much to learn around here I'd kind of push him to the back. Since I have no rythem and quite frankly, horrible taste in music, researching a poet never was a high priority. I plan to drag my wife to a Burns Dinner this year so I guess I better brush up.
Thanks,
Jim
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14th October 10, 06:35 AM
#45
 Originally Posted by Drac
I may have to move up research on Burns a bit on the list. Like most Americans my only exposure to him is on New Years Eve. Since there is so much to learn around here I'd kind of push him to the back. Since I have no rythem and quite frankly, horrible taste in music, researching a poet never was a high priority. I plan to drag my wife to a Burns Dinner this year so I guess I better brush up.
Thanks,
Jim
Here are a few articles to get you started:
http://www.scottishmilitaryarticles....cle_RB_RDV.htm
http://www.milwburnsclub.org/contrib/soldier.htm
http://www.worldburnsclub.com/expert..._influence.htm
T.
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14th October 10, 11:13 AM
#46
 Originally Posted by Drac
How about I would wear medals to a black tie corporate event?
Jim
I personally wouldn't wear medals to any black tie, or corporate, event unless the invitation specifically said: Black Tie, Medals. To do otherwise might give the false impression that you were trying to "show off".
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14th October 10, 11:20 AM
#47
Last edited by macwilkin; 14th October 10 at 11:41 AM.
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14th October 10, 11:29 AM
#48
 Originally Posted by MacMillan of Rathdown
I personally wouldn't wear medals to any black tie, or corporate, event unless the invitation specifically said: Black Tie, Medals. To do otherwise might give the false impression that you were trying to "show off".
Not doing a good job typing here
I meant to imply how about the example "I would never wear medals to a corporate event" instead of "I would never wear medals to a Burn's Dinner>" that bothered cajunscot.
As I was trying to imply that I feel comfortable wearing medals to a military function but not to something outside of that.
Maybe time to ask to close the thread as it seems to be spiralling down and bothering people no matter which way it goes.
Jim
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14th October 10, 11:40 AM
#49
 Originally Posted by Drac
Not doing a good job typing here
I meant to imply how about the example "I would never wear medals to a corporate event" instead of "I would never wear medals to a Burn's Dinner>" that bothered cajunscot.
As I was trying to imply that I feel comfortable wearing medals to a military function but not to something outside of that.
Maybe time to ask to close the thread as it seems to be spiralling down and bothering people no matter which way it goes.
Jim
Again, Jim -- you owe no one an apology here. I offered my opinions, and that was that. I'm not bothered. Rathdown's post is correct in the fact that it states when medals should be worn -- when the invitation requests it. 
No need to shut down the thread, INMHO.
T.
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14th October 10, 11:58 AM
#50
Jim I know I did not serve in you country's forces, but I can tell you as a young Officer I and my brother Officers and I am sure the men too, just loved talking to the "Old Soldiers" and their tales of the past. Pretty grim tales some of them were and some humorous ones too! These stories gave us a connection to the past and we loved these chaps being around. Not one of them ever boasted, they did not need too, all were very self effacing, even if their medals said otherwise.
Now I have met the occasional retired American serviceman and yes they were dressed in civilian attire as befitting their status, but on the appropriate occasion they wore their miniature medals--only those----no badges, no wings, no anchors and no badges of rank.
Wear your miniatures(only) on the appropriate occasion, if you wish, with the kilt and be proud of them. You earned them. But only at the proper time.That way the younger generation will learn about their past from people that REALLY know.
Last edited by Jock Scot; 14th October 10 at 12:19 PM.
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