This may be interesting

**Phogfan86** · 23rd October 08, 07:19 PM

A couple of you made suggestions or pointed things out that I hadn't thought of, so I made some changes to my proposal and it's sitting in my supervisor's mailbox as we speak. She'll read it tomorrow. It's my hope that she realizes (1) this isn't a goof; it's a serious expression of my heritage, and (2) this isn't worth making a stink over.

**MacMillan of Rathdown** · 23rd October 08, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Phogfan86

A couple of you made suggestions or pointed things out that I hadn't thought of, so I made some changes to my proposal and it's sitting in my supervisor's mailbox as we speak. She'll read it tomorrow. It's my hope that she realizes (1) this isn't a goof; it's a serious expression of my heritage, and (2) this isn't worth making a stink over.

With regard to item two: I assume that this is your position as well?

**Phogfan86** · 23rd October 08, 07:56 PM

You assume wrongly, sir.

As I wrote earlier, this could open a can of worms if she says no. To me, it is a fight worth fighting. For my employer, it really shouldn't be.

**BroosterB1** · 23rd October 08, 08:29 PM

Being self employed, full time salesman and part time minister (for now, working on changing that the other way around) I still have to consider what would be apropos for different situations. I have several large accounts that are in the construction area, my crocks freak them out ( I have half a dozen pair), I can imagine what a kilt would do to their mindset. However I have several Hair Salons and a few restaurants where when I show up on the bike they think that's ducky.

To test the waters I am going kilted to an Aveda open house on Saturday, just to see how some of my clients react. My guess is I will be surrounded by lots of the gals.

I have thought of capitalizing on the kilt in another way. I will defiantly be adding selections to my wedding business to appeal to Scottish/ Irish/ Celtic style weddings, but I am toying with another idea.

To understand this, let me just say that one of my businesses is increasing the velocity of accounts payments. I show businesses how they can speed up their accounts receivables by using credit card merchant accounts, Automatic Check clearance (ACH) and electronic invoicing. Usually I can turn a 35 day receivable into a 12-14 day one. Since this business is all about reducing cost and deals directly with money at all levels, I am thinking that using the "Scot" (Me) as a logo for the business with a Motto of something like "Inexpensive donna mean low quality". RBS (royal Bank of Scotland) uses as similar tactic sans the kilted guy.

My question is 1)would you all be offended if you saw a guy put together a business plan where he could wear a kilt as part of the business promotion? and 2) Is it insulting to capitalize on the idea of the "frugal Scot" in the first place?

I am simply trying to find a way to "justify" more kilt purchases to the "boss" (herself) and be able to wear those purchases more often.

Thanks for any input.

**Cherub** · 24th October 08, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by The Unkilted Heathen

Does anyone one here actualy have a set uniform they have to wear to work.
Ive been considering turning up kilted but being security and having a uniform i dont think it will go down well,If anyone has any thoughts.

Sorry to hijack this thread

Jordan

I haven't had a set uniform since my days at the front desk at a Hotel, but I did do a stint as a Security Officer, In Canada they are not peace officers. The kilt would probably be frowned upon as you are trying to project an Image of authority and the Kilt might detract from that.

**Rollo** · 24th October 08, 06:17 AM

Good luck !

**Tetley** · 24th October 08, 06:22 AM

Originally Posted by BroosterB1

Being self employed, full time salesman and part time minister (for now, working on changing that the other way around) I still have to consider what would be apropos for different situations. I have several large accounts that are in the construction area, my crocks freak them out ( I have half a dozen pair), I can imagine what a kilt would do to their mindset. However I have several Hair Salons and a few restaurants where when I show up on the bike they think that's ducky.

To test the waters I am going kilted to an Aveda open house on Saturday, just to see how some of my clients react. My guess is I will be surrounded by lots of the gals.

I have thought of capitalizing on the kilt in another way. I will defiantly be adding selections to my wedding business to appeal to Scottish/ Irish/ Celtic style weddings, but I am toying with another idea.

To understand this, let me just say that one of my businesses is increasing the velocity of accounts payments. I show businesses how they can speed up their accounts receivables by using credit card merchant accounts, Automatic Check clearance (ACH) and electronic invoicing. Usually I can turn a 35 day receivable into a 12-14 day one. Since this business is all about reducing cost and deals directly with money at all levels, I am thinking that using the "Scot" (Me) as a logo for the business with a Motto of something like "Inexpensive donna mean low quality". RBS (royal Bank of Scotland) uses as similar tactic sans the kilted guy.

My question is 1)would you all be offended if you saw a guy put together a business plan where he could wear a kilt as part of the business promotion? and 2) Is it insulting to capitalize on the idea of the "frugal Scot" in the first place?

I am simply trying to find a way to "justify" more kilt purchases to the "boss" (herself) and be able to wear those purchases more often.

Thanks for any input.

How about the fact that wearing a kilt would make you a very memorable person in your customer's eyes and therefore much more likely to remember you when talking to other people who could avail themselves of your services? Word-of-mouth advertising is usually the best.

Or is that too tenuous?

Mark

**Phogfan86** · 24th October 08, 01:11 PM

FREEDOM!

The unbifurcated male garment is a go as long as it doesn't distract me or any coworkers from their jobs. I assured her that I'd be fine but that I'd appreciate help in knowing whether or not it's a problem for others.

Baby steps.

**Jordan** · 24th October 08, 01:31 PM

Thats great congratulations

**Smayniac** · 24th October 08, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by BroosterB1

"snip"I have several Hair Salons and a few restaurants where when I show up on the bike they think that's ducky.

To test the waters I am going kilted to an Aveda open house on Saturday, just to see how some of my clients react. My guess is I will be surrounded by lots of the gals."snip"

I have been observing this thread with interest. While I don't have a uniform, my employer has expectations of appropriate(some of our jobs are construction sites) and professional appearance and has discouraged shorts in the workplace. I have worn long trousers to work for several years and am not out to rock that boat.

I do, however, do many fashion events as well. Now that I have a really presentable kilt, I am planning to wear it to some of those events as I deem appropriate. It is not my place to attract attention away from the products being showcased by my clients; while I have long subscribed to the kabuki ideal that you don't see black, I also have faith in the power of the kilt to overcome that invisibility. I have a particular show picked out to debut my kilted show blacks, I will get pictures and let you all know how it turns out.

Bob